Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20958 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2003 19:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 12 Nov 2003 19:33:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 5830 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2003 19:33:56 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 X-Fake-Domain: unknown Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (193.82.116.20) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2003 19:33:43 -0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1AK0jU-0006mg-HO for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:32:52 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AK0jT-0006mX-5q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:32:51 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: gemini Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1AK0ig-0000Fr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:32:02 +0000 X-No-DNS-For: 147.197.232.252 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch15) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AK0if-00034r-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:32:01 +0000 From: "James Moritz" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:31:54 -0000 Organization: University of Hertfordshire X-Bad-Message-ID: no DNS (rsch15) Message-ID: <000001c3a953$a60c75c0$fce8c593@rsch15> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-UH-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: RE: LF: Dummy-Load on LW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Rating: 3 >which raises the question I have often wondered about. > When I started in ham radio all coax was post-war surplus 75 ohm. I >assumed >in my youth it was to match a free-space dipole !. > >When I came back to radio after a thirty-year absence in 1990 all was 50 >ohm. > >Who, when and why did someone decide to change to 50 ohm ?? Dear Bryan, LF Group, We had this discussion before on the LF group - In summary, due to the 138log b/a relationship for characteristic impedance, coax cables with Zo much less than 25ohm are not practical due to the small spacings required between conductors, while much larger than 100ohm is difficult due to the very thin centre conductor required. A 75ohm air-spaced copper conductor coax theoretically has lower loss than any other impedance, while 50ohm has higher power-handling ability. If the 75ohm air line is filled with polythene insulation, you come out with something near 50ohm, which will then come out with the lowest loss for a solid cable, assuming the conductor losses dominate, which they usually do. So practically, coax cables always come out somewhere in this fairly narrow range - whether it is 50, 60 or 75ohms is mostly down to preference. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU