Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21416 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1999 00:21:20 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 1999 00:21:20 +0000 Received: (qmail 28323 invoked from network); 19 Nov 1999 00:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 19 Nov 1999 00:20:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11obc4-0000eZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:09:16 +0000 Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl ([194.109.127.49]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11obc3-0000eU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:09:15 +0000 Received: from v3q4v1 (dc2-isdn1735.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.154.199]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA06740 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:09:08 +0100 (CET) From: "M. Sanders \(PA3BSH\)" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Tuned Counterpoise Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:04:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bf3221$9df2ae20$c79a6dc2@v3q4v1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <000001bf3150$9ec1a9e0$20e7869f@net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi All, By looking closely at the electrical configuration of an aerial system with a tuned counterpoise the effects can be explained by reasoning as well as calculations/simulations. I have posted a schemetic diagram on my homepaged to avoid problems when sending it with the mail via the reflector. It can be found at http://www.xs4all.nl/~misan/aecp.jpg (abt. 40kB filesize). Or requested by email :mailto:pa3bsh@amsat.org. The scematic shows an increase in antenna current (i) will be caused by the added capacitance (Cxtra) between earial wire and counterpoise wire. The second benifit is the apparent reduction of earth losses (Re) when the tuned counterpoise impedance (Rres2) is put in parallel. I think on LF the added capacitance to the earial system is the main factor for an improved antenna current. By improving the Q (decreasing the impedance Rres2) of the counterpoise circuit (increasing insulation/height and/or high Q tuning coils) the effect of the counterpoise impedance will increase. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. On HF reception strength increases when adding a tuned counterpoise. Does the same thing apply on LF???? If this is the case it is safe to assume there is an increase in transmitted power as well. Measuring the current to the ground system is a useful tuning aid for the counterpoise. When the current to the earth system (Re) reaches a 'null' the system is in tune (Kirchhoff's law). Greetings and best 73's Michael Sanders, PA3BSH [part of original message] >One other thing discovered in all this....... at first I had the ANT and Counterpoise coming in throught the wooden >window frame but only about 7 inches apart. I had terrible problems with arcing over to the window frame. Tried >everything, double insulation etc etc , but no good. However once I seperated them by about 20 inches , it all stopped >and no further problems with arcing over to the window frame. >WELL , what do you think. >Best regards >Finbar EI0CF Malin Head